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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: Playstation 3 VS Xbox 360 VS Wii Reply with quote

I'm just trying to get how people see things. The way it looks now, people see the successes of MS not due to their own work towards it, but due to the actions and choices of Sony. I disagree with that. While Sony may have opened the door to these possibilities, MS still had to put in effort to get those exclusive deals. Even getting the multiplatform development they've gotten from previous exclusive franchises. All that, though, is really getting away from the original question.

The original question was "Are the successes/gains of MS in the RPG genre causing a decline in the popularity of the RPG genre?"
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is ms to blame for killing jrpgs? lol sounds like the typical N4G article who's only source is some Sony fanboy on some random forum.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) RPG's have been in decline since the ps1 days. Unless it was a pretty big title like FF, no one really cared about rpg's. Its unfortunate, but thats how it is.

2) I think MS's success has alot to do with Sony's poor start, along with Sony still being stupid with their dev kits and making it very difficult to develope a game on the ps3. PS3 just doesnt have the numbers like ps2 did, so personally I think they feel its not worth the effort anymore, especialy with how expensive it is to develope on the ps3 compared to the 360.

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And why do we keep starting a new thread after 300 pages?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Raansu, you feel RPG sales would've kept declining even without deals going to MS?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So Raansu, you feel RPG sales would've kept declining even without deals going to MS?


Yes. The sales of smaller rpg's on the 360 are more or less the same as they were on the ps2. Going multiplat, imo, really wouldnt make a big differance. Yeah the sales might be slightly higher, but I really dont think it would make that much of a differance. Especially since RPG's just arnt that popular outside of japan anymore. Everyone wants generic sports and fps titles. Thats just how it is.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see why rpg's are not the fan favorites anymore. I think its because of 2 reasons

1. Some people dont want to spend weeks and weeks on end trying to finish one game

2. Lack of orginality or variety in a rpg or lack of balance in a sense.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XxRed dragonxX wrote:
I can see why rpg's are not the fan favorites anymore. I think its because of 2 reasons

1. Some people dont want to spend weeks and weeks on end trying to finish one game

2. Lack of orginality or variety in a rpg or lack of balance in a sense.


I have to say I agree with both. The idea of finishing 50 hour games is daunting for me now.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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XxRed dragonxX wrote:
I can see why rpg's are not the fan favorites anymore. I think its because of 2 reasons

1. Some people dont want to spend weeks and weeks on end trying to finish one game

2. Lack of orginality or variety in a rpg or lack of balance in a sense.


I have to say I agree with both. The idea of finishing 50 hour games is daunting for me now.


Yea between work and school I can't sit down for 3-4 hours to actually get somewhere in an RPG anymore.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raansu wrote:
Unless it was a pretty big title like FF

And why do we keep starting a new thread after 300 pages?


From that article IF posted a while back it appears even the great FF series is seeing a decline in sales. Its been going down hill since FFVII.

Good question.

So. . . are yeti excusable?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my theory is attention spans going down. Ppl want quick gratification nowadays, scrubs just rinsing utube and gamefaqs cos they can't be bothered when things get long and dull. . . grinding in some dungeon wouldn't hold them for long.

Soon only headshots and interactive cutscenes with big boobs thrown in somewhere are going to be the norm.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

giga_d wrote:
. . . grinding in some dungeon wouldn't hold them for long.


Tell that to WoW :/
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silicon wit wrote:
Raansu wrote:
Unless it was a pretty big title like FF

And why do we keep starting a new thread after 300 pages?


From that article IF posted awhile back it appears even the great FF series is seeing a decline in sales. Its been going down hill since FFVII.

Good question.

So. . . are yeti excusable?


Im not very keen to the idea, but I guess it depends on how they set it up.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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NO NO NO!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Famitsu wrote:
360 hits 1m in Japan:

360, just over 1 million
PS3, just over 3 million


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Well done MS, they could have skipped Japan but they made an effort.


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I'm surprised at the low numbers of the PS3. What is the perception of the PS3 to the japanese public at the moment?



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The Japanese are trying to fight it, but when the 360 is pretty much the only system that has RPGs, there isn't much choice for them. I'm sure a lot of them are cursing to them selves while putting their money on the counter and hating every second of it.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sad that 360 only made 1 million sales in japan after 3 years. Not sure why they resist it so much. 360 seems like it has more games that appeals to that market as well. Maybe it's the RROD.

They should just stop resisting their Microsoft masters. Resistance is futile anyway!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

extra wrote:
Pretty sad that 360 only made 1 million sales in japan after 3 years. Not sure why they resist it so much. 360 seems like it has more games that appeals to that market as well. Maybe it's the RROD.

They should just stop resisting their Microsoft masters. Resistance is futile anyway!


But HSG5 and GT5P probably outsold all those rpgs combined in that region.

edit: Not to mention the true masters are handhelds.
edit2: http://www.newrpg.jp/
Could it be the PS3 finally gets a rpg from them? That or it could LR again.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

extra wrote:
Pretty sad that 360 only made 1 million sales in japan after 3 years. Not sure why they resist it so much. 360 seems like it has more games that appeals to that market as well. Maybe it's the RROD.

They should just stop resisting their Microsoft masters. Resistance is futile anyway!


I never understood that either. People say its because its an american product, but last I checked, ipod is an american product, and they sell like hotcakes over there.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 360 doesn't sell well because handhelds are much more important in Japan. To top it off, in Japan Microsoft is still a "new comer". There haven't been many breakout RPGs, etc. If FFXIII were announced as 360 exclusive, it would have an install base in japan double what it is now, no questions asked.

Fact is, Blue Dragon is a poor mans Dragon Quest (and not a great one at that). LR is okay, but still not a Final Fantasy. The Namco RPGs are pretty good, but aren't going to push the system on it's own.

It's easier for a Japanese customer to invest in an overpriced PS3 that they know will have FFXIII than purchase a 360 that won't get that game in that region.

And yes, it's like that. Monster Hunter PSP anyone?
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